Xbox Live gamer suspended for saying he lives in Fort Gay

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Guess what: Fort Gay is a real place. Also guess what: the word "gay" isn't actually offensive. Microsoft says it will apologize to the small West Virginia town of Fort Gay and a 26-year-old gamer it booted from Xbox Live after he wrote in his profile that he lived there.

It's not easy being a gay gamer — and apparently that holds true even if you aren't actually homosexual.

Microsoft recently banned a 26-year-old gamer from Xbox Live, accusing him of violating the online gaming service's code of conduct by publicly declaring that he's from the town of Fort Gay.

A customer service rep from the company told Josh Moore, an unemployed factory worker, that the town's name was considered offensive.

But Microsoft now finds itself having to issue an apology not only to Moore but to the entire town of Fort Gay, West Virginia. Yeah…turns out it's a real place.

It also turns out "gay" isn't an offensive word. But we knew that already, right?

Certainly the word gay has been an ongoing problem for Microsoft as well as the proprietors of other online gaming services, who find themselves trying to walk a fine line between letting gamers express important information about themselves while also trying to prevent other bigoted and hateful gamers from harassing those that do express themselves. (Msnbc.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal.)

The fact of the matter is, it can be an ugly, ugly gaming world out there, with all manner of homosexual slurs routinely being hurled about in online multiplayer matches as both insults and attempts at intimidation. (By the way, you Neanderthals that do this kind of thing: You are the pond scum that lives beneath the pond scum.)

Microsoft had used a hammer to try and solve the problem — that is they tried to stem the use of homosexual slurs by banning all expressions of sexuality in any way in Gamertags and gamer profiles on Xbox Live. But that only created another problem — gamers who are, in fact, gay and want to identify themselves as such in their online information or in conversation, found themselves booted from the service for simply discussing an issue central to their lives and their identities.

A player named Teresa found herself embroiled in controversy after she identified herself as a lesbian in her profile. Not only was she horribly harassed and even stalked by hateful players, Microsoft went on to suspend her from Xbox Live.

But earlier this year, Microsoft nixed that policy. The new policy states:

"You may use the following terms to express your relationship orientation in your profile or Gamertag: Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Transgender, Straight. Other terms regarding relationship orientation are not allowed. In addition you may not use these terms or any other terms regarding relationship orientation to insult, harass, or any other pejorative use against other users."

Needless to say, Fort Gay gamer Moore was surprised to find himself caught up in that tangled mess – perhaps especially since he's not gay himself.

Moore enjoys playing games like "Medal of Honor," "Call of Duty" and "Ghost Recon" with other players via Xbox Live. But problems arose when he added the name of his home town to his Xbox Live profile. (Fort Gay is a community of about 800 in Wayne County, along West Virginia's western border with Kentucky.)

Microsoft suspended his gaming privileges leaving Moore desperately trying to convince customer service that the location wasn't a joke or a slur.

"I was mad ... It makes me feel like they hate gay people," Moore told the Associated Press. "I'm not even gay, and it makes me feel like they were discriminating."

Angry and incredulous, Moore contacted customer service.

"I figured, I'll explain to them, 'Look in my account. Fort Gay is a real place,'" Moore said. But he claims the employee was unreceptive, warning him that if he put Fort Gay back in his profile, Xbox Live would cancel his account and keep his monthly membership fee, which he'd paid in advance.

"I told him, Google it — 25514!" Moore said, offering up the town's ZIP code. "He said, 'I can't help you.'"

Fort Gay Mayor David Thompson also tried to intervene, but with little success. Thompson told television station WSAZ, which first reported the dispute, that he was informed the city's name didn't matter. The word "gay," he was told, was inappropriate in any context.

Stephen Toulouse, director of policy and enforcement for Xbox Live, has since told the AP that it's all been a big miscommunication. As their new Xbox Live policy states, using the word gay as part of a gamer's identity is no longer a banning offense.

He said Xbox Live received a complaint, which was directed to an agent for review.

"Someone took the phrase 'fort gay WV' and believed that the individual who had that was trying to offend, or trying to use it in a pejorative manner," Toulouse said. "Unfortunately, one of my people agreed with that. When it was brought to my attention, we did revoke the suspension."

Complaints, he notes, come to agents with no contextual information, including who the suspected offender is or what games they play. The agent simply looks at the language and determines whether it complies with policy.

Toulouse contends his team rarely makes mistakes but acknowledged, "Absolutely, a mistake was made here, and we've updated our training to account for that."

Toulouse said he will contact Moore and apologize.

"In this very, very specific case, a mistake was made," he said, "and we're going to make it right."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Winda Benedetti writes the Citizen Gamer column for msnbc.com. You can follow her tweets about games and other things right here on Twitter.

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This is why I play on the PC. No Big Brother crap.

  • 11 votes
#1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 4:32 PM EDT

Yeah one of those companies that claim they want to protect our rights. They should be banned from interfering with peoples free speech.

And I don't care if they claim its their network. They are a fictitious entity and have no individual rights. As part of our letting them exist we can certainly say you can't violate a persons constitutionally protected and inherent rights.

  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:52 PM EDT

you think pc games are imune. Magic the Gathering online has similiar rules. Wizards 101 MMORPG game censors out numbers because they could be somehow offensive.

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:54 PM EDT

PC Gaming to infinity!

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:01 PM EDT

This guy should get a free lifetime membership for the blatantly ignorant stance taken by Microsoft.

  • 11 votes
#1.4 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:13 PM EDT

Support the hardware evolution and become a P.C Gamer. But to be honest I would look at that as a security risk to point things like that out as far as broadcasting your locale.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:13 PM EDT

My stepdaughter's last name is Callahan. She can't get a Hotmail account with it because the name "contains an offensive word or phrase". Guess what it is yet....?

It's a sad, sad world when we can't even use our own names for fear of offending someone.

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:38 PM EDT

There's plenty of Big Brother on PC games as well. The problem is more that the word filter catches the *edited* words that may have been or has been reported as offensive. The phrase *that's so gay* is seen by some as offensive. Frankly, I believe gay people are a tad tougher than that and understand it's a passing saying by mostly kids. I am not excusing MS but I will say that I'd rather the filter is there for the younger kids who shouldn't have to see anything at all in the first place.

  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:45 PM EDT

Well, American Citizens also have the right to be free from discrimination. There will always be gray areas. If you are offending individuals, you are infringing their rights as people and American citizens. Censorship wouldn't be an issue of limiting "freedom of speech" if people could be mature enough to respect each other and be respectable.

  • 4 votes
#1.8 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:58 PM EDT
Comment author avatarAmerica Today-AnthonyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

This is a non story that was picked up by an obviously homosexual reporter and pushed beyond its relevance.

Every site you go to that has a community uses security software to check for words that are considered offensive. The game itself had nothing to do with the algorithms used by a third party software company used for the safety of the whole community. The sad thing is that homosexuals themselves are the reason why gay and other words are on the offensive list. Check it out everyone. If you ask a computer to stop people from calling others gay then you will get these other problems.

This is why I cant stand homosexuals that push these agendas. They dont represent the homosexual community as a whole just like Jesse Jackson doesnt represent the black community as a whole. I would bet $50 that the person that was censored did it on purpose. If anyone spent an hour in an online environment you would see screen names that are 1000 times more offensive but they pass because they are spelt in a way that bypasses the security.

The sad thing is that people will do almost anything for their 10 seconds in the spotlight. Obviously this reporter is milking a stone for all it is worth.

Totally pathetic journalism.

  • 9 votes
#1.9 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:02 PM EDT

Since when is "GAY" a dirty word ? Baltimore has Gay St. I just came back from Deleware and had to pass Gay St. Georgetown Deleware. My grandmother told me she felt gay all the time.

Just about every movie I've ever scene in the 30's.40's and 50's uses the word GAY at some point.

If you say the word has been bastardized at some point, your right. However, just because lately, it denotes sexual orientation, doesn't mean a damn thing. It is still a real word that has been used for generations no matter how you interpret it. How gay am am feleing now!

You figure it out.

  • 6 votes
#1.10 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:02 PM EDT

Yea, MTGO can fornicate itself with an iron rod. I got banned for naming myself hotliquidschmegma. Last time I checked smegma is a medical term, all be it a funny one and a mis-spelled one. I am all for companies having whatever crazy rules they want but it is up to us as responsible consumers to not spend our money with companies who's policy's break our moral boundaries. If we all actually did this, we would not need governmental intervention. Though I would argue from a philosophical stand point that we do not need it at all, ever.

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:11 PM EDT

RED.

The senator was feeling gay as he denounced the niggardly stance of the appropriations committee's view on the budget for education.

Hehehehe!

  • 4 votes
#1.12 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:11 PM EDT

Microsoft's whole banning system is screwed up anyways. They ban people with little to absolutely NO CAUSE. I have suffered this fate twice. I had been suspended once for a offensive word. That was on me. I got off that ban and all of my profile was deleted. No biggie, right? Wrong. They then suspended me another time IMMEDIATELY after that for system tampering. I don't know how to system tamper to save my own life. That ban lasted like three days. Then, I get back on after that ban, and they did it again IMMEDIATELY. System tampering. I've never once touched any sort of programming to alter my system or my gamertag at all, and not once did I use the complaint system in an inappropriate fashion. But I got banned. Other people also suffer this fate on XBox LIVE. If you happen to run into an admin, and you tick him off, you can get banned. In the world of XBox LIVE, you can get banned and lose all your money put into the system just for playing the game. Check out the complaints on this system on xbox.com. You will find many people complaining. Some are legit. Microsoft has always not known what they are actually doing. They are ridiculous.

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:19 PM EDT

Political correctness gone awry!

  • 3 votes
#1.14 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:27 PM EDT

I would bet $50 that the person that was censored did it on purpose.

Pay up, son. If you had read the article in its entirety, you would know that the reason the player was suspended (NOT censored) was that he used the name of his HOME TOWN in his profile, and that name happened to contain the word "Gay". Not to mention the suspended player isn't gay himself.

    #1.15 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:36 PM EDT

    The word GAY has only recently been used to denote a peson of homosexual orientation. If you look up the history of the word it's original and continued true meaning of the word is akin to happy. That is why you see it so much in literature and popular culture (lyrics, movies and so on) references in the past. When and why the meaning was adapted to be used to describe a homosexual person I don't know.

    Oh and so you know, I'm not GAY either, just educated and not so PC phobic as everyone else is now days.

    • 2 votes
    #1.16 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:45 PM EDT

    Numbers might be offensive?? Apart from "one less than seventy" (ahem), what numbers could be offensive? Or are they thinking of the numbers some right wingers use to commemorate Hitler's birthday and all that sort of thing?

      #1.17 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:47 PM EDT

      Why not you voted for him for president?

      • 2 votes
      #1.18 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 9:01 PM EDT

      Hey James Essayist, Since you are so brilliant I am going to make you just a little bit smarter.

      Hitler was a Socialist Democrat, this is a fact, you maroooon. He was Obama's mentor.

      • 2 votes
      #1.19 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 9:06 PM EDT

      Bet you thought that was bright! NOT!

        #1.20 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 9:09 PM EDT

        This is a bunch of nonsense. So what if some people throw 'slurs' at each other, though it's rude, most people say these kinds of things to insult a person, not to get at them for their sexual identity. To be honest, I don't see what sexual identity as to do with gaming at all. Wow, amazing, your homosexual. GET BACK TO THE GAME, there's no point in saying these kinds of things, and getting hurt about it, because, frankly, many people are against homosexuality, not everybody is going to be happy, but gaming on the internet is not the place to raise issues about it.

        • 2 votes
        #1.21 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 9:14 PM EDT

        I have read gay so many times in poems, and many famous books, which are real pieces of art. Gay used to mean happy, it was used as a euphemism, which is a word or phrase used in place of a term that might be considered too direct, harsh, unpleasant, or offensive. The term gay (happy) was used to replace the word homosexual. however, it is offensive nowadays because people has forgotten its former meaning. But we have to have things in context. At that time Fort Gay only meant Fort happy. And for me it only means that and it s not offensive at all.

        • 2 votes
        #1.22 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 9:28 PM EDT

        I have been refused online services because my last name is Edick lol. I'm like I fought all thru school over this. Now as an adult I'm refused just to be lol.

          #1.23 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 10:25 PM EDT

          Why is someone "bigoted" or "hateful" if they do not agree with someones lifestyle? That is not very tolerant now is it?

            #1.24 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 10:51 PM EDT

            My stepdaughter's last name is Callahan. She can't get a Hotmail account with it because the name "contains an offensive word or phrase". Guess what it is yet....?

            ok ula_ashore, I have to know. I'm not exactly a stupid person but I am drawing a blank here. what exactly is the offencive word in "Callahan"? I can't figure it out and my curiosity is killing me.

            • 3 votes
            #1.25 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 11:57 PM EDT

            Why do gays have to put it in everybodie's face? I don;t go up to people and say " my name is Donald Duck, and I'm straight ". And why ,on a gamer site, would you find it necessary to say you are gay? Who cares - play the game. Gays seem to share the belief that if they say it often enough, and loud enough and in enough plsces, it will gain them acceptance. Those that don't care what they do in the bedroom ( or any where else) don't matter, and those that dislike gays will only hate more. Unfortunatly human nature dictates that as long as there are people of different colors, different faiths, and differnt sexual orientation, there will be bigots and haters. Someone somewhere is gonna hate someone for whatever reason. been my experience in life that people make fun of what they don't understand, or can't afford.

            • 3 votes
            #1.26 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 11:58 PM EDT

            oldman young eyes
            Why do gays have to put it in everybodie's face? I don;t go up to people and say " my name is Donald Duck, and I'm straight ". And why ,on a gamer site, would you find it necessary to say you are gay?

            I am gay and I don't put it anyone face. If there is a place for sexual orientation I put that I am gay for two reasonns. first so thaat other gay people out there will know there is another person like them here and if they want to be friends or talk about anything i am a person they can do that with. and second, as a kind of warning to homophobes out there that I am gay and if you don't like that or approve then skip on over me cause you already don't like me and I am not going to be swayed by anything you say.

            Gays seem to share the belief that if they say it often enough, and loud enough and in enough plsces, it will gain them acceptance.

            I am luck enough, and I know alot of people aren't, that I am completely accepted by everyone in my life whose acceptance of me matters. There are people who can't accept me (both cause I am gay and for other reasons) but fortunatly for me these are not people whos opininons currently or ever mattered to me, and as for the world at large I reallydon't care that much about what any stranger thinks of me. I have always lived by the rule that if you are not my friend then I don't care what you think of me and if you truly are my friend then nothing I do or am is going to make you think bad of me anyway.

            Those that don't care what they do in the bedroom ( or any where else) don't matter, and those that dislike gays will only hate more.

            None of my friends or family care what I do in my bedroom or anyone elses bedroom for that matter, and these are the only people that do matter to me. Those who dislike gays have their own issues to deal with, cause if you dislike a person when the only thing you know about them is their sexual orientation then you are the one who has a problem, not the gay/bi/straight person that you hate. I don't hate people who dislike or hate gay people, I just don't really care about them one way or another. Again I am fortunate in this that the people who alreafy mattered to me in my life accepted me without issue when they found out i was gay, not everybody is that lucky.

            Unfortunatly human nature dictates that as long as there are people of different colors, different faiths, and differnt sexual orientation, there will be bigots and haters. Someone somewhere is gonna hate someone for whatever reason. been my experience in life that people make fun of what they don't understand, or can't afford.

            Unfortunatly this is all too true in my experiance as well, although I have seen and experianced enough kindness and love and acceptance that I am able to holdout hope that this won't always be true. Unfortunatly it can be the very quest for acceptance that makes people act bigoted and hateful I have known people who will go alomg with homophobia or even more commonly racism when they are in a group simply because they want to be accepted and don't want to be left out, when personally as an individual they have no problem with anyone because of their sexual orientation or race or handicap or any of the other reasons people are commonly made fun of, hated or discriminated against. And i am honest enough to admit that when it comes to racism i have been guilty of this behavior although I am woking to change that. I think that when people stop compromising their befiefs in order to fit in, there will be alot less hatred and fear of "gay" people, disabled people 9especially those born with mental disabilities), and normal everyday people who are hated or feared because of their race than their is today. I believe alot of discriminatory behavior is done by groups of people who want to fit in and the one person who has a ligitamite hatred of a group of people is the one that is followed cause he or she is the only one who actually voices their true beliefs and everyone else falls in line so as not to be the outcast.

            Ok i'm done now, sorry everyone I didn't mean for this to become a rant, but once i started i had to keep going.

            • 3 votes
            #1.27 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 12:54 AM EDT

            Really? WTF is wrong with Microsoft........ They banned me saying amen for gaymen in my profile !! If the ps3 want so ***** I would switch!!

              #1.28 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 1:32 AM EDT

              All he got was an apology? In my eyes, they should give him thousands of Microsoft points...or at least a few games "on them". An apology doesn't pay back the time and effort nor the mental anguish put to him on Microsoft's behalf.

              • 1 vote
              #1.29 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 1:58 AM EDT

              This article is "Gay"...

              • 3 votes
              #1.30 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 7:49 AM EDT
              Comment author avatarKeegan the AwesomeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Why do gays have to put it in everybodie's face? I don;t go up to people and say " my name is Donald Duck, and I'm straight ". And why ,on a gamer site, would you find it necessary to say you are gay? Who cares - play the game.

              I just flagged you for making fun of gay people. If you don't have anything nice to say about other people, such as homosexuals, keep it to yourself.

              • 1 vote
              #1.31 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 8:31 AM EDT

              haha microsoft u fail

                #1.32 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 9:19 AM EDT

                Devil, there is no constitutional issue here. Microsoft is a business, not a government. The Constitution protects free speech from GOVERNMENT censorship. Businesses can make whatever rules they want, and then we vote with our dollars.

                • 1 vote
                #1.33 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 9:52 AM EDT

                Davie013-

                Callahan

                c-ALLAH-an

                See?

                  #1.34 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 11:49 AM EDT

                  You can shoot people and blow them up in these games. But you can't say "Gay"?

                  We got to respect everyone's lifestyles. Even the people who hate homosexuals. If bashing a few gays (verbally or in game) makes them happy, who are we to judge? Many people find homosexual behavior offensive, are we to ban homosexual behavior as well just to please those who are offended by it?

                  Our country has gotten so soft. No wonder we can't win any wars.

                    #1.35 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 11:50 AM EDT

                    My stepdaughter's last name is Callahan. She can't get a Hotmail account with it because the name "contains an offensive word or phrase". Guess what it is yet....?

                    I'm going to have to call shenanigans on that. I just went to hotmail and went to the sign up page. I entered callahan315 for the email user and clicked on check availability. Said it was available to use. Allah didn't seem to be a blocked word.

                    I took it a step further, and entered a number of different slurs and offensive words. While some weren't available, they offered me alternatives that included that word with just a number on the end. I'm not so sure MSN blocks offensive words from their email addresses.

                      #1.36 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 12:00 PM EDT

                      People who act like jerks on live is one thing. But people who take every little playground insult as the worst swear in the world are just as bad as those dirks. Words change meaning all the time. Move on with the world or get in your model t and get out.

                        #1.37 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 12:07 PM EDT

                        Tom @ 1.19: Chill man. This isn't the gameworld, this is a discussion about gameworld. If you like being a hard case or a barbarian when playing, enjoy. When posting, you could be a bit more adult and ease off the insults--they add nothing to what you say. Put down the flamethrower and take a deep breath. (BTW, it's not about brilliance, it's about reading a lot of things, covering all viewpoints--that's part of writing fairly and accurately.)

                        The Nazis called themselves the National Socialist Workers' Party, but only a few programs for workers' benefits might be called socialist. They were otherwise Fascist. They hated (and killed) communists, socialists, Marxists, democrats, liberals, and even most other conservatives. Christians went to death camps just as Jews and non-Aryans did. Hitler never called himself a democrat. He could've called himself a bluebird but he would've still been a vulture. Him Obama's inspiration? Hardly. As for Obama being a social democrat, that's likely, but it doesn't really have anything to do with the kid hit with a suspension by Microsoft because their moderator was too c**ksure of himself about the kid's hometown.

                        • 2 votes
                        #1.38 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 8:32 PM EDT

                        james essayist... Oh slap. Factual and well written; thanks for saving me the time.

                          #1.39 - Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:19 PM EDT

                          Thanks, traffikr, and you're welcome. Happy to oblige.

                            #1.40 - Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:45 PM EDT
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                            The XBox Live representatives should be forced to review this list:

                            http://www.accuracyproject.org/towns.html

                              Reply#2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 4:38 PM EDT

                              Seriously though. The most disturbing part of this article is the young woman who was banned for saying she was a lesbian in her profile and not the people who were engaging in hate behavior towards her. I think Microsoft tipped their hand on how the attitude is in their company towards homosexuals. They're trying to scramble to minimize a PR disaster but it's out of the closet now.Reminds me of the article earlier in the year at the Cleveland Indians game where a paying customer wore a Miami LeBron James shirt and was harassed by other fans and he was escorted out of the stadium by security and not the people who were threatening him over an F-ing shirt for an athlete. What a truely stupid being is the human

                                #2.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:55 AM EDT
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                                @Dude of Death

                                "Big Brother" is the gaming community. All of the online communities like Xbox Live, Playstation Network, World of Warcraft, etc. are policed by the members of those communities. The final reviews are launched by members of the organization, however, they have the responsibility to uphold the integrity of their product and community, making it safe for everyone to enjoy the game / community. This is why terms of service exist.

                                In this case a mistake was made, which is unfortunate, but it does not mean that it's a case of "big brother" (which I thought only occurred in regards to the government). What it does mean is that mistakes happen and will happen. The system isn't perfect, but I am sure you are not perfect either.

                                • 4 votes
                                Reply#3 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:06 PM EDT

                                Actually I think big brother is in reference to any political, military, or commercial organization that suppresses your rights, to the point of spying/surveillance and suspending your ability to fight to regain your rights, thus removing any power you have as an individual and leaving you with no chance to regain them. Oh snap... isn't that the corporate controlled world we continue to call america?!? :P

                                • 3 votes
                                #3.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:35 PM EDT

                                You know I'm the first one to stand up for freedom of speech but common sense says that there is also morality involved. Morality not in the way that some of you may be thinking. I'm talking about treating other human beings morally. There comes a point for every person when words become a cutting knife. I came to a point in my life where I left my first wife because of cutting remarks that she made. I just got warn thin and began to bleed emotionally. It had become such a part of her personality she couldn't/wouldn't change it. So in public forums it's time to grow up and act like you would if the people you respect more than any others are there too. Respect! Common respect.

                                • 2 votes
                                #3.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:53 PM EDT

                                The term BIG BROTHER actually originated from George Orwell's book 1984 referenced to a dictator in a fictitious country similar to a futuristic USA that was in control of the government. He used video surveilance as well as family members to spy on each other and report anybody that spoke out against the government, even in the privacy of their own home. Those people were then selected for "reeducation" which was basically a brainwashing technique to rid them of their seditious thoughts. The term was then used later most commonly to mean a government or government entity that would attempt to silence your constitutional rights such as the most basic of freedom of speech. But in this case of extremism of Political Correctness and everyone becoming completely outraged at even the slightest inclination of discrimination of any kind (unless you were caucasian in most cases and usually male and straight) that it can be applied to any major corporations that are in fear of being sued and therefore overreacts to a situation as Microsoft did in this case. Another example would be the car commercial that was targeted by PETA because it had used a monkey in a daredevil suit to push a bar down and make the streamers "explode". In this case though they made it tongue-in-cheek and made it an invisible monkey where you only saw the suit to poke back at the rediculousness of PETA.

                                  #3.3 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:54 PM EDT

                                  i often get bleeped out on-line for trying to tell folksI'm from Beaver, Pennsylvania... :) The best one is when you visit the town, go to Wendy's there. They won "Best of the Valley Award" ran by local newspaper a few years in a row and put the plaques right by the food checkout... The very first one for year 2001 states :

                                  Best Of the Valley:
                                  WENDY'S
                                  BEAVER

                                  where the latter are in the same font...
                                  Haven't got a chance to send the picture of it to Jay Leno yet since the sign on the entrance says about no photography inside :)

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #3.4 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 1:25 AM EDT

                                  My Point Of View-

                                  That's the funniest thing I've seen in years.

                                  Kudos.

                                    #3.5 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 12:25 PM EDT

                                    POV I have to see a picture of this.

                                      #3.6 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 2:19 PM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      Sure they made a mistake, but then an employee "Threatened" to revoke his status and keep his prepaid membership fee. I think the best apology would also include a free lifetime membership to that individual.A company like microsoft can afford that.

                                      • 12 votes
                                      Reply#4 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:24 PM EDT
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                                      If online gaming works for you then have fun but I have to agree with Dude of Death. I play PC games when I want and how I want,,,,,no rules or interferrence from anyone.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#5 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:31 PM EDT

                                      @Skywarp: why don't Americans acknowledge freedom of expressions? And if someone is insulted or feel threatened there are authorities to intervene. No need for big brother to limit users' freedom.

                                        Reply#6 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:32 PM EDT

                                        Here is a perfect example of overwhelming ignorance. Why don't Americans, yea like all of us Americans behave in such a manner. Please don't group all of un into one little category.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #6.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:05 PM EDT

                                        While I agree with freedom of expression, have you ever played Call of Duty on Xbox Live? I get called names, harrassed, and in fact, I had one guy following me from room to room (even though I kept leaving the rooms any time he arrived), just to call me disgusting names, all because I'm a girl. And the guy that was following me around, he wasn't American.

                                        I couldn't call the authorities for something like this, but I also couldn't play the game I paid for because this guy wanted to be a jerk.

                                        So sometimes I'm glad Big Brother is out there monitoring the network for guys like that, so that the rest of us can enjoy just playing the game.

                                        Do I think Microsoft went overboard in this instance? Sure. But then again, they have to err on the side of caution because there are always people out there that like to get around the system. Like spelling their stupid and offensive names with numbers instead of letters, just to get it past their system.

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                                        #6.2 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 7:56 AM EDT

                                        why don't Americans acknowledge freedom of expressions?

                                        Just pointing this out, I "tolerate" hate speech, not because I like it or agree with it, but because I want to have the right to exercise me freedom of speech to combat idiots that use that kind of language in a public forum. However, we are talking about a service that is provided by a private company. They are not obligated to tolerate the same kind of language. They don't even police the community, but require the community to police itself. This is about a company protecting itself from litigation due to them not being able to protect the integrity of their service from people who cannot follow the Code of Conduct.

                                        In this instance there was a mistake because there wasn't any contextual background given to the employee who reviewed it. This is an example of the community policing itself. The problem happened when the review of the complaint lacked background information.

                                        If you violate the code of conduct you essentially forfeit any further use of the service, including unused membership time, for account cancellations.

                                          #6.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:02 PM EDT
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                                          Obviously, Microsoft used a niggardly application of research when they acted.

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                                          Reply#7 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:32 PM EDT

                                          Wow! You worked so hard at trying to sound intellectual and being offensive. Impressive.

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                                          #7.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:41 PM EDT

                                          Wow! jsw....you just totally missed the point and exposed your own ignorance. Impressive.

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                                          #7.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:11 PM EDT

                                          You do know niggardly means 'penny pinching'.

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                                          #7.3 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:14 PM EDT
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                                          Actually, Winda Bendetti, YOU, by calling the gamers "Neanderthals" and "pond scum", are doing the exact same thing that they do: intimidating; name calling; attempting to inflict injury.

                                          Take a look at what you do, take a look at history, and then come to terms with the fact that this is what human beings do: we compete with each other, we hurt each other, we kill each other. Even when we think we are being 'nice' or 'enlightened,' we are ghastly creatures, as you just demonstrated. And its funny you should mention Neanderthals, because that is the perfect case in point, as we wiped them off the face of the Earth with our nastiness and hostility.

                                          JTL

                                          fygor@@hotmail.com

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                                          Reply#8 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:33 PM EDT

                                          I'm pretty sure the writer was being facetious in order to illustrate her point.........

                                            #8.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:15 PM EDT

                                            Calling them 'pond scum' and 'neanderthals' is in reference to people who use the homosexual slurs against other people. Not ALL gamers. L2read, kthnx.

                                              #8.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:16 PM EDT

                                              That would be 'evolutionally challenged.'

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                                              #8.3 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:57 PM EDT

                                              lachappelle: Actually, we "real" humans -Cro Magnon in particular- managed to crossbreed with Neanderthal before they disappeared entirely. (There hasn't been a "pure blooded" human race since, what with wars and migrations.) Some people demonstrate more stereotyped Neanderthal traits than others--posting trolls and talk radio hosts come to mind as possible examples. Wall Street Bankers, Big Pharma and Insurance CEOs definitely. (BTW, allergy sufferers should be glad we didn't inherit the extra pair of sinuses that Neanderthal had--four pairs are quite enough when the pollen count is high!)

                                                #8.4 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:58 PM EDT

                                                Yeah as I was reading the article about offensiveness I saw that line and I was like WTF..?!?

                                                  #8.5 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 2:27 PM EDT
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                                                  "By the way, you Neanderthals that do this kind of thing: You are the pond scum that lives beneath the pond scum." Yeah, that's some good "news" reporting right there. Give me a break you idiot. It's not like this kind of stuff doesn't happen in other areas of the internet, let alone in real life at places like schools. Save your hate talk for your personal blog and just stick to the facts. We've got enough morons who blend in their ideals and hatred with news stories.

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                                                  Reply#9 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:34 PM EDT

                                                  The "log" in "Technolog" is the same as the one in "blog". Technotica and Citizen Gamer discuss news topics that fall within their realm of expertise, and sometimes comment on it in a biased way. They're not meant to be an impartial press release.

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                                                  #9.1 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
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                                                  Wow.. that's just bad if you ask me. If someone is gay, or lives in a place that has the word gay IN it?; They should be left alone. That's what they are. No different than going around saying you're straight or you live in a town...that has the word straight in it.

                                                  Well now I know I don't think I'll ever consider getting an xbox for sure.

                                                    Reply#10 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:34 PM EDT

                                                    You also have to take into the consideration of how many times that Microsoft has to ban profiles of people who actually use the word gay in a derogatory way in their profiles. I've seen a few myself, and I've reported some people with profiles like those.

                                                    I'm all for freedom of expression, and I think people should be able to put information like their hometown in their profiles (why you'd want to, I have no idea... I certainly don't want people on the internet knowing where I live). Did Microsoft go overboard in this case? Absolutely. But they also have to deal with people spelling their offensive names with letters to get around their system, they have to deal with reports coming in from millions of people playing online and investigate every one of them.

                                                    It happens that someone gets overzealous and something like this happens. But they have to err on the side of caution because there are so many people out there that love to just do things like make offensive gamertags and profiles only to make people angry and to push the limits with Microsoft.

                                                    Do I think they owe this guy an apology? Yes. Do I think he's owed more than that? No, other than maybe repaying him for any gaming time he may have lost online.

                                                    Xbox runs a good network, and I enjoy gaming on it. The 360 is a great console. I don't enjoy some of the jerks that play on Xbox Live, but they paid for their memberships too, and if they go too far, I'm glad Microsoft monitors the network.

                                                      #10.1 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 11:51 AM EDT
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                                                      Feel sorry for the guy who plays and lives near Fort Dix...

                                                      Butt-Head: "Is that near Fort Nuts?"

                                                      I'm just saying...

                                                        Reply#11 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:39 PM EDT

                                                        total bullcrap, the homo agenda is crapping all over every part of normal life.

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                                                        Reply#12 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:40 PM EDT

                                                        Homo agenda? And what, exactly is that? If you are making reference to the fact that gays and lesbians deserve equal rights, then you can at least show some respect. That is all any of us want... to be treated with a degree of consideration. And that stands if its a racial or otherwise. Sorry but you are out of line with that comment.

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                                                        #12.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:34 PM EDT

                                                        Actually you are giving them better rights. You know how I know that? because not even a straight person can walk around the world confident that they will not get made fun of. A women. A man. An african american. An asian. and the list goes on. Everybody has something "wrong" with them that they can get made fun of for in this world. may it be inability to read or speak correctly or using slang or they can't drive as well. Or they can't learn as well others. Why can't you just be happy that YOU are gay? why does everyone have to respect that...when not even everyone respects african americans yet. or asians. or anybody. See that is what we mean by the homo agenda crapping on everyones lives. Because you dont realize that your far from the only person with social issues. or even the only group of people with social issues

                                                        You want my oppinion? why don't you and everyone else in this world gay or not, mind your own buisness and know that if whether I call you gay or a fag or whatever the derogatory term be, it doesnt change you or me. I'm still straight. Your still gay. Hes still black and hes still asian.

                                                        get over yourself

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                                                        #12.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:43 PM EDT

                                                        And I suppose we should still have colored bathrooms and drinking fountains right SuperBrain? Why do we have to hate that which is different from us?

                                                          #12.3 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
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                                                          I think the whole issue is gay!

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                                                          Reply#13 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:42 PM EDT

                                                          I'm not so sure, it didn't sound very merry to me.

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                                                          #13.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:52 PM EDT
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                                                          that's pretty homo that they dont like gay, what a bundle of sticks they are at x-box, complete fags if you ask me

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                                                          Reply#14 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:45 PM EDT

                                                          Light my fag please and go back to fagging away at work! You Americans obsess too much on PC and contextual missteps.

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                                                          #14.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:01 PM EDT
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                                                          Microsoft banned me for my gamertag 'Eatmykrum'

                                                          I guess those lawyers watch borat.

                                                            Reply#15 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:47 PM EDT

                                                            Microsoft has this policy in its email as well, as my parents have a very unusual last name of "Growcock", yes, for real, and they are not allowed to use it in their email address or on their email accounts, which no offense, but they have been harrassed about their own name for years from numerous people, and I do not think it is fair that some company can come along and make it worse for them either, just like they did for this guy. It isnt right as to what they consider offensive, especially if it is on your legal birth certificate! ( some things I can see, but come on, they need to look into these things first!)

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                                                            Reply#17 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:51 PM EDT

                                                            Just imagine how a person of German extraction feels when someone comments on their last name of "Schmuck."

                                                            There are at lest 2 in Milwaukee, WI, and 4 in NYC.

                                                              #17.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:01 PM EDT
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                                                              Wait- Users PAY to be abused by Microsoft like this?

                                                              • PAY???

                                                              There's your problem, letting a corporation tell you what you can do when you use its product as you see fit.

                                                              Why would anyone be so stupid as to PAY to use an XBOX you already own?

                                                              This is why all software should be absolutely free.

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                                                              Reply#18 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:51 PM EDT

                                                              Soon software will be free. However, game developers will adopt the annoying ala carte style that the flash games on FB uses. Many online games do this already to a smaller degree, but expect fully free software with pay for content within the next few years.

                                                              Sometimes you pay more when you get what you wish for.

                                                                #18.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:53 PM EDT

                                                                You don't pay unless you want to participate on Xbox live. Just like the high end games for PC's on the Internet. The reason people buy Xbox 360/Sony PS systems is because they don't want to drop $400-2500 dollars on a home computer system. For some people. $150-199 dollars is a bargain that has it's benefits over a PC. For instance..$50 pays for a years service on Xbox live, where if you wanted to play World of Warcraft online (PC), you would have to drop $19.95 a month. That's roughly over twice the price...for ONE GAME!! Xbox live covers ALL games, because most of the games are meant for online play. So if you have a limited account, Xbox is the industry leader by far....not that I like it, but that's the way it is.

                                                                  #18.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:02 PM EDT

                                                                  lol cuz paying monthly for WoW is so much better than paying for xbox live where I can play any game I own on it....

                                                                    #18.3 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:46 PM EDT
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                                                                    People play xbox360? Really?

                                                                    This kind of @!$%# is ridiculous. If another gamer doesn't like what someone has to say or type, then ignore them and go elsewhere. Anyone old enough to be online should understand this.

                                                                    This world is becoming 1 big censored $hithole. Who in the fu*k are you to tell me what I can or cannot do? You don't own me. F*ck microsoft and snitches.

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                                                                    Reply#19 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:51 PM EDT

                                                                    The world isn't becoming a censored $hithole.... Only America is... I've been to plenty of other countries that could care less about the issues we have to tip-toe around everyday. }ucking $ucks here.

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                                                                    #19.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:15 PM EDT
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                                                                    Well to SuperBrian. Your comment about the homo agenda shows your stupidity. "homo agenda" isn't crapping all over every part of "normal" life. You see for the millions of "homo" people out there. It is normal life. This guy deserves a year of free service for gaming. He did nothing wrong and was bullied by "tha man".

                                                                      Reply#20 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:52 PM EDT

                                                                      Right you are!

                                                                        #20.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:40 PM EDT

                                                                        And you know why nothing you said makes sense? because "Normal" life for ANYONE is uncensored. Can you not see that agreeing with the censorship of a word just because it hurts someones feelings is just giving "tha man" u so fondly speak of more power than it already has? We should all be working to unban these words, because them having censorship over ANYTHING is giving us less individual rights. Because by saying gay is not ok, then your saying its ok for a group labeled by something to come together and amongst THEMSELVES and not EVERYONE agree that its offensive, and if they do that means it should be labeled as offensive to everyone. Do you realize how selfish that is? to take away a word just because you dont like it? If you dont like being called "gay" then you probably shouldnt associate yourself with a group of people that is called WORLDWIDE and labeled IN THE DICTIONARY as GAY people.

                                                                        Grow some %uckin balls

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                                                                        #20.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 9:05 PM EDT
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                                                                        If you are being harassed on the game either quit or suck it up and ignore it. There is no company that monitors and filters real life!

                                                                          Reply#21 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:52 PM EDT

                                                                          That is so true dude. Microsoft ain't responsible for a persons sexuality. If you cant take the heat stay out the oven!

                                                                            #21.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:21 PM EDT

                                                                            So if I have someone harrassing me while I'm playing Call of Duty (like I had happen to me), I should stop playing? I did nothing to warrant this guy's attention, but he followed me from room to room (despite the fact that I had put in the option to "avoid this player"), and then he just called me offensive and disgusting names, and every time I left a game, he would follow me to another. It was to the point that I had to appear offline just so he couldn't find me. So then he started sending me offensive messages, so I blocked all communication with him, but if I appear online and he's online, he'll follow me into rooms where he will just team kill me the entire game, even if he can't communicate with me.

                                                                            I paid for my console, my membership, and my game. I shouldn't have to deal with that. I should be able to play the game without worrying about if he's going to show up even though I've done everything I can to avoid him.

                                                                            In real life, if I had someone doing this to me, I could report it to the authorities. But this type of behavior isn't covered by the police... so Microsoft has its own policies.

                                                                            Not all cases of this type of thing are cut and dry.

                                                                              #21.2 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 12:03 PM EDT
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                                                                              Michigan has Beaver, and Climax as towns. We often visit Big Bone Lick on Beaver Road in Kentucky (and it is where palentology sort of began and it is in the National Registry and is a state park. There are all sorts of offensive -that is offensive by slang terminology. Words such as gay, never had that current meaning. Faggot is a stitch, faggotting is taking two pieces of cloth (collars, linens and stitching them together usually by hand so that air shows between. It is a beautiful stitch. I won't even go into shades of color and the racial commentary they bring. Some of these words were around for hundreds of years. Only now does anyone get offended-because he doesn't know the real difinition, but rather the slang.

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                                                                              Reply#22 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:53 PM EDT

                                                                              across the pond a fag is a cigarette, gay used to mean happy and cheerful, and there's a town somewhere called Intercourse, there's a lot of old words that now mean something new and different and people get bent out of shape far too soon before they look at the facts.

                                                                              We've come a long way and yet seem to have gone farther back. how sad.

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                                                                              #22.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:16 PM EDT

                                                                              Intercourse is in PA and Conception is in MO

                                                                              that's quite a feat

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                                                                              #22.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:08 PM EDT

                                                                              I agree. What first comes to mind when the following words are spoken:

                                                                              Head - Black - Bone - Cracker - White - Slant - Come (i know how to spell. i said spoken) - Dump.

                                                                                #22.3 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:24 PM EDT

                                                                                Pennsylvania not only has Intercourse, but Blue Ball and Bird In Hand. They are all in the Dutch Country, and it's easy to find signs or t-shirts in souvenir shops that will proclaim you had fun, or visited, any of them. LOL

                                                                                  #22.4 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 9:06 PM EDT

                                                                                  Thank you, for being one of the only people here to state it is criminal to denounce a word just because of its slang and modern definition

                                                                                    #22.5 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 9:08 PM EDT
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                                                                                    Political incorrectness or political correctness is getting very old. The internet world is going insane. This is what happens when humans rely on machines to develop relationships for them as well as think for them. It's actually very sad. I'd rather have a few quality, trusting and loving relationships that will develop in person, than to be "casual" with thousands over the airwaves.... Big brother needs to mind it's own business!

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                                                                                    Reply#23 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:54 PM EDT

                                                                                    I guess I can't play ... I am from the Gay United States.

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                                                                                    Reply#24 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:54 PM EDT

                                                                                    Ahahhahahahaa!!!!!

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                                                                                    #24.1 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 9:37 AM EDT
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                                                                                    Microsoft and NBC need to mind their own business, I find them playing "big brother" offensive.

                                                                                    Did they forget about free speech? Well that includes insults and harrassment. Dont like it, stay home and plug your ears. Because you need thick skin in the gaming world. Mamby Pambies are like fresh meat in a shark tank, in the online gaming world. You will be eaten alive. Slow, and for the pure pleasure of hearing you scream! Anyone who tries to change that, or doesnt understand that about gaming, should get out of the business. Its always been that way, and always will be that way. Nerd rage to the max!

                                                                                    The best part about online gaming is getting someone to rage quit! lol

                                                                                      Reply#25 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:55 PM EDT

                                                                                      Free speech doesn't exist on a private network. People are granted access when they agree to the terms and conditions of whatevery they are accessing. My guess is that almost everyone just blindly clicks accept to get to the gaming. Companies like this could state you forfiet your house to access their network and most people would be oblivious to it.

                                                                                      I do agree that if you online game, once inside the game, you are subject to some vile things. A thick skin is a must. Funny you mention /ragequit. I play Star Wars Galaxies from time to time and we made someone /ragequit to another server. The guy was a total ass though. Knew it all and done it all but couldn't keep himself alive for 20 seconds.

                                                                                      I don't diagree with what you have said, but companies under the pressure of the ESRB and overprotective parents have had to cover their butts through their terms and conditions. Can't forget the sue happy public looking for a buck off the misery they endured while ingame either. Their lives will never be the same after someone executes the /moon command on them.

                                                                                        #25.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 8:08 PM EDT

                                                                                        @Fingers Magoo.....What "free speech are you referring to? The Constitution, it doesn't apply to this. Microsoft and NBC are private entities. It would be like you or me walking into a restaurant or any other business and dropping the F word loudly and being rude. While you may think it is your right to use the word it is actually the owner of the business to decide what words are to be used. He/she would be well within his/her rights to ask us to leave.

                                                                                        Same with Microsoft and NBC. It is their network that we are on and their rules we must follow. There are no if's, and's, or but's about it. I sure that you have read the terms of agreement before you agreed to them so you could play, right? Play by their rules or leave, that is the only right that you really have.

                                                                                          #25.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 11:22 PM EDT

                                                                                          Oh look everyone ^^ a game troll.

                                                                                            #25.3 - Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:21 PM EDT
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                                                                                            Oh god, there is no big brother. Why does everything have to be so dramatic?

                                                                                            They want to keep certain terms out of the game in order to protect the players and head off any problems. What is wrong with that? Microsoft didn't create our society, they simply service a portion of it. This was an odd case that didn't fit under the guidelines every player agrees to when they use the service.

                                                                                            Sorry, hate to break it to you, but online gamers aren't exactly known for their sensitivity. Things happen. That is why the rules are in place.

                                                                                            But yes, let's judge an entire company by the way they handled a few unique and isolated issues.

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                                                                                            Reply#26 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 6:55 PM EDT

                                                                                            I couldn't agree with you more Janet-1672248. It is understandable for a company to tryto keep offensive language out but it's just going to happen. As one person stated, it's human nature. I don't see how it is offensive for someone to state their sexuality...but I also don't see why it is relevant in order for them to play.

                                                                                            Another thing, I think it was completely unprofessional for the writer to put her own opion into the article its self.

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                                                                                            #26.1 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:21 PM EDT

                                                                                            Yes it was, too bad facebook and my space aren't as strick as these people want to be, they are like nasty rag magazines, put on there personal junk and their famly problems and crap, need to make it stick to what it was meant to be. its not a gossip column to air your personal life or any other thing of privacy.

                                                                                              #26.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 7:34 PM EDT

                                                                                              I like this too, because no company is going to be able to get every aspect of every word

                                                                                              I could say F$%& or Fuhc or anything else someone that is creative can come up with, but the point is the reason there so strict is because people have broken that rule in the past. Just like if the running back fumbles it and everyone loses the game...If one person calls you a F@%got then everyone has to be penalized it for it. Its the way society has worked past couple of decades, Its all just sewing the holes in the blanket instead of sewing a new blanket

                                                                                                #26.3 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 9:14 PM EDT
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